It doesn't, hence why it would be distracting...
Yup, it destroys your confidence. If what I was told at the dealership is true the triangle with exclamation mark inside - in orange, most important that because if in red it means it's really serious? - anyway, this is apparently to draw your attention to the actual light which gives you a clue as to what general area the fault lies. Without the second light you haven't a clue. (I presume the dealer diagnostic tool would identify it, at great expense for just plugging it in) Kind of says it all regarding the importance of the orange warnings though when the main dealer's advice is to just drive on and see if another light lights up - remember this car is under warranty so, presumably they will be required to fix it? - Luckily there were several witnesses to his advice. So far still no light now showing so maybe exactly what he guessed at ie. something like a poorly seated bulb?What Jock posted about his car displayed a warning that apparently required action...but did not feel it necessary to specify about what.
I miss the days of the big red STOP light on French cars. Clear and concise.
Of course, on the ones without temperature gauge it usually meant "you just killed your engine", and I did have a 205 where the light came on randomly for the 2 years I owned it, but... Happy days.
In all fairness and I know I am teaching you to suck eggs here but the dealership was right in this aspect. An orange light can be a bulb out or that you have disabled the passenger airbag it can come up for a whole host of reasons non of which are specifically dangerous or harmful to the car or the occupants.Yup, it destroys your confidence. If what I was told at the dealership is true the triangle with exclamation mark inside - in orange, most important that because if in red it means it's really serious? - anyway, this is apparently to draw your attention to the actual light which gives you a clue as to what general area the fault lies. Without the second light you haven't a clue. (I presume the dealer diagnostic tool would identify it, at great expense for just plugging it in) Kind of says it all regarding the importance of the orange warnings though when the main dealer's advice is to just drive on and see if another light lights up - remember this car is under warranty so, presumably they will be required to fix it? - Luckily there were several witnesses to his advice. So far still no light now showing so maybe exactly what he guessed at ie. something like a poorly seated bulb?
I think jock said that he visited the dealership after everyone but the workshop manager had gone home who looked over the car could not see an issue and advised him to book it in to have it looked at properly/codes read. at least thats how I viewed it. I don't think they did read the codes.I did assume the dealership had read the codes or lack thereof when it went in but if not worth it.
Pretty much any modern car will have stacks of information available to it but it may not display 50% of it.
I know on ours it has no bulb warnings etc...but there are "silent" trouble codes eg "front left indicator open circuit" which will not trigger anything but the car knows it's got a bulb out it just doesn't pass the info on.
True of every car I've had to get code offTo diagnose you clear them and then see which ones actually come back as they are the only current issues.
You can hack the system and get the temp to show on the displayOf course, on the ones without temperature gauge
One, of the many things, that attracted me to the Skoda, and modern VAGs in general, is that they tend to give you individual gauges for the likes of coolant temperature and the Scala does. I can even display oil temp on the wee screen between the main dials which is handy on a motor with a turbo.You can hack the system and get the temp to show on the display
That's always my starting point when doing a service. Do an all systems scan, note down any that seem important, clear codes and drive car a few miles to see if any reappear but also to heat up the oil ready for draining.True of every car I've had to get code off
Many dealers now move to multiple brands, why's the big deal about htis one?For those unaware of Wingrove...it started as a Citroën dealer (it's also where the C3 is from)...it now sells Citroën, Peugeot DS and..
Exactly why I like one make independents.Does it really matter, all the dealers are heading the same way with no 'experts' about a particular brand now.
Any time I've had to buy genuine parts or quiried service work then it's always a different person you talk to, very high turnover of staff.
Does it really matter, all the dealers are heading the same way with no 'experts' about a particular brand now.
Any time I've had to buy genuine parts or quiried service work then it's always a different person you talk to, very high turnover of staff.
My Ibiza had that function Andy and the Skoda seems to be very similar, I've already discovered how to cancel the Lane Assist using it. Good call, I'll start with that, thanks.
Edit, PS, the ibiza didn't have sat nav and a very much simpler screen too - Oh dear, how did I switch italics on?
Ha Ha Ha.... Well its always happening to me. So it must be age.... I assume its a certain key stroke combo.Oh dear, how did I switch italics on?
Possibly like the Fiat insufficient power message when the car would rather have had a bootful of power when starting on a slope. Or, electronics made in Italy? You should have got another Panda!I feel his "pain". Last week, with about 200 miles on the clock, we went out to my boy's house to the south of the city and I was really enjoying the experience. The car is lovely to drive, the ride is considerably more comfortable than the Ibiza and it pitches much much less on speed bumps. The Ibiza was particularly bad on them, trying to bury it's front end into the road as it came down off the "hump". There's also much less turbo lag when picking up from low revs as you accelerate away from said speed bump - I'm pretty sure this is courtesy of the variable vane turbo control as opposed to the Ibiza's more simple open and shut wastegate. Time will tell if it's going to be as reliable though?
All went very well on the outward journey and I was feeling very pleased and thought I was really beginning to settle in and "bond" with the new car. On the return journey, almost as we left the end of his road, an orange triangle with an orange exclamation mark illuminated on the "mini panel" between the speedo and rev counter. Nothing else to indicate what it might be so Mrs J hauled out the owner's manual and discouvered there are 3 pages of warning icons which can appear. I pulled into the first convenient side road, switched the engine off and started reading the book. Seems that this exclamation mark in orange is to draw your attention and there should be another lit to further narrow down what's at fault. Our's only had the exclamation mark though. The book lists it as a "warning symbol" and should be safe to drive to your nearest "specialist garage" - for which read "main dealer". When I started the engine again it didn't come back so we carried on (I'd nipped out and checked oil, coolant, brake fluid levels and had a good look around under the bonnet generally while we were stationary, but found nothing. It was dark so I'd checked all the lights too including the number plate lights) Anyway, after about 10 minutes more or less, the light came back on. Oh dear. continued carefully keeping an eye out for coolant temp, oil warning light etc, etc. Luckily we go right past the Skoda dealer so I nipped in on our way past. Unfortunately the workshop staff had all gone home but there were reception staff there handing back cars that had been in during the day for work. She was very nice and said she thought the workshop foreman was still in and went to find him. 10 minutes later she came back with him and he had a quick look at the car but the light had gone out again! He told me the exclamation mark in either orange or red should be accompanied by an identifier light which narrows down the area of concern. A red light must not be ignored and, depending on the fault light the car may need to be immediately immobilized - Ie, engine stopped. An orange light is a warning and it should be safe to continue driving but advisable to call at a garage as soon as possible. As only our exclamation light is lit with no "identifier"light to accompany it, He couldn't make any suggestions as to what the fault might be and it would need to go on the diagnostic machine. He was actually a very nice chap and when I told him I used to hold a similar position to him, but many years ago, so wasn't surprised to find he was late going home - not many workshop foremen get to walk out the door with the other men - We commiserated for a while about the foreman's "lot" and he then said, We've had a few lately with similar symptoms, where it's been something like a poorly seated side light bulb. If I were you, as it's only an orange warning, I'd just drive it around for a while and see if an identifier pops on. Ok. so we drove home. Now, with nearly 800 miles on the clock, the orange exclamation has not been seen again, let alone an "identifier" - and all levels etc are absolutely fine with the car running beautifully. I'd love to know what caused it though.
But 3 pages of identifier symbols? That's over 40 fault symbols that could appear on the dash with another 52 "information" symbols, like main beam, dip beam, lane assist, seat belts, air con, safe distance, 6 separate ones for cruise control state, etc, etc. There even seems to be a light to tell you no light is switched on!? although I haven't seen that one yet. surely this isn't necessary.